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Altum Angels?

Discussion in 'Freshwater Aquariums & Fish Photos' started by stevenrox, Apr 11, 2009.

  1. stevenrox

    stevenrox Thread Starter New Member

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    are these altums i cant tell [scratch] [scratch] [scratch]
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    stevenrox, Apr 11, 2009
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  2. stevenrox

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    Re: lemon heres a head scratcher for you

    you guys can help to im leaning on altums
     
    stevenrox, Apr 11, 2009
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  3. Guidoman888

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    Re: lemon heres a head scratcher for you

    I dont know but I think they are :eek:

    Let's just wait for lemons respond :)
     
    Guidoman888, Apr 12, 2009
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    Re: lemon heres a head scratcher for you

    From the photos I would guess yes.
     
    MOD_Dawn, Apr 12, 2009
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    Re: lemon heres a head scratcher for you

    Look like Altums to me.
     
    Anthony, Apr 12, 2009
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  6. stevenrox

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    Re: lemon heres a head scratcher for you

    they look like peru altums to me but more like a scalare breed from the stripes and head shapes...
     
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  7. stevenrox

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    Re: lemon heres a head scratcher for you

    and plus true altums bars are kind of brownish so idk
     
    stevenrox, Apr 12, 2009
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    Re: lemon heres a head scratcher for you

    No, they are not..... I cant tell the one to the right too well but the one to the left IS NOT an altum.... It is a Leopaldi Angelfish.... the one on the right though from what I see looks like a Peruvian Scalare.... again I cannot see its face too well.... It does not really have the "Altum pattern" to it nor the finnage for me to think even a bit that it is an Altum.

    Sorry it took me a while to respond... out visiting family Easter weekend.
     
    LemonDiscus, Apr 13, 2009
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  9. stevenrox

    stevenrox Thread Starter New Member

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    Re: lemon heres a head scratcher for you

    lol exacly what i thought but the person who was trying to sell it to me said it was labeled "altum" from a reliable store and i was like no way....
     
    stevenrox, Apr 13, 2009
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    That does happen all the time though....
     
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  11. stevenrox

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    yea but i dont think it was stores fault i think the bought it and re-named it as altums...
     
    stevenrox, Apr 13, 2009
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  12. LemonDiscus

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    I dont think its the stores fault either.

    Here is the problem with Altums..... they are RARE..... furthermore trade collected from wild Amazonian species is getting more and more difficult each year limiting importation of these specimens.

    Many times when the US importers in Florida get the stock in (or elsewhere) the scan quick over the items to determine the species. As Scalares, Leopaldis and Altums are have some things in common, it is an easy identification error on import. They then sell to the wholesalers and retailers passing on this error and most of the time it goes undetected to the store level.

    As shoppers we must ALL be aware of the creatures because ultimately we are the ones that must know the difference and not rely on the stores and what they say.
     
    LemonDiscus, Apr 14, 2009
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  13. Guidoman888

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    Lemon your our hero :eek:

    We all thought they were altums :confused:
    glad we have you :)
     
    Guidoman888, Apr 14, 2009
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  14. LemonDiscus

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    uummmmm ok :confused:

    :)
     
    LemonDiscus, Apr 14, 2009
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    Lemon is right, at a glance you could tell they are not altums
     
    ira, Apr 15, 2009
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  16. LemonDiscus

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    Strangely though they both look different as I said. The one on the right looks like a Peruvian Scalare and the one to the left looks like a Leopaldi, 2 different types of Angelfish.... ALL BUT the Altum :) (there are 3 types of Angels - Scalare, Leopaldi and Altum)
     
    LemonDiscus, Apr 16, 2009
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