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Ich / Ick Ich question regarding inverts and betta

Discussion in 'Fish Diseases & Cures' started by MOD_Dawn, Jun 5, 2010.

  1. MOD_Dawn

    MOD_Dawn Thread Starter Active Member

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    the guppies I got the other day (20L thread)...well 2 died and 1 defin has two grains on the fin- ich.

    tank temp is 76.7 because of the betta and cherry shrimp...bumped it to 84f because of the ich signs.

    Question is do you think the temp bump will kill the betta, australe killifish, and cherry shrimp?

    -->TEMPERATURE at time of testing was 76.7F
    -->Test Kit Used was API freshwater LIQUID test kit
    [*]AMMONIA 0
    [*]NITRITE 0
    [*]NITRATE 10
    [*]PH 6.0
    [*]PHOSPHATE 1.0
    [*]KH I believe was 2
    [*]GH I believe was 8 (by 2 drops it was orange and by the 8th drop it was green)
    (right within tropical fish keeping range)

    Edit...make that 3 died (found one on the prefilter that looked in perfect condition)
     
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  2. Anthony

    Anthony Active Member

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    The only thing I'd worry about are the shrimp. The other fish shouldn't have a problem with the temperature.
     
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  3. MOD_Dawn

    MOD_Dawn Thread Starter Active Member

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    GRR.. I guess I really don't have much of a choice...shrimp- or everything else in the tank (being everyone else may possibly have the ich now too).
     
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  4. Anthony

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    They may be fine if you raise the temp really slowly.
     
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  5. MOD_Dawn

    MOD_Dawn Thread Starter Active Member

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    well the temp is holding steady (according to tom temp alert) at 83.2F...
    I can't set it to the 89.5 to kill it- the pro-stealth only goes to 86F.

    as of now (83.2F) everything is alive...great water flow and oxygen bubbles from the waterfall effect of all the filters (3 aquaeon hobs) so no worry of that, wondering if the rise from the original 76.7F to the newly set (just seconds ago) 86F will kill the ich or does it have to be 89.5 on the dot?

    I've wondered about this before, but even moreso now being I'm dealing with it first hand.
     
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  6. FishVixen

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    most Ich will die at 86 but a newer strain needs 89.3 to die off. So far I've never had to have mine over 86F. My heater had gone haywacky and I had a tank at 94F (only for a short while) Shrimp and crayfish survived that ordeal. I don't know how constant ^ temp would affect them.
     
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  7. MOD_Dawn

    MOD_Dawn Thread Starter Active Member

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    hoping they make it, temps reading 85.9 and the lights green (stealth pros) so that's as good as high as it will get.
     
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    Did you try treating with some medical salt just to be sure to kill the free-swimming ones?
     
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  9. MOD_Dawn

    MOD_Dawn Thread Starter Active Member

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    no salt, there's plants & inverts in there...that's why I'm opting for the heat method.
     
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  10. nossie

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    Right! Sorry, I'm so used to having Java Fern (salt resistant) so there's no problem at all treating with salt in my tanks :'D
     
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  11. FishVixen

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    You should be fine.
     
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  12. cooltow1

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    That really is a paradox.
    If heat does do it (and it should)
    May want to think about quinine hydrochloride, not sure about inverts with this med may want to research it.
    Work well on scale-less or delicate fish fish that can't handle Malachite Green/ Formalin combination.

    Rick
     
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  13. Anthony

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    There's a new strain of ich that needs 89.3-.4 to die ? I haven't heard about that.
     
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    cooltow1, Jun 6, 2010
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