My new 29 gallon Reef

I like this one since it shows a graph:

Begin Fish Tank Cycling

 

I should mention, if you have fish already there or something else, you can still do this but at a much lower rate of speed, since you suffer the risk of creating too much ammonia at one time and killing your beloved pets.

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no worries.... just add more food as you said yourself. Ammonia will soon come!

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Yeah, just be patient with it!
If you want, you could try and check the damselfish out! They are quite hardy for a marine species, and they would be perfect to keep in the tank as an aid for the cycle as soon as the worst ammonia and nitrite are gone!
Damselfish are very different between the species, so they would make an interesting addition to your marine tank
They might get a bit territorial, towards their own species, or towards other fish, but that's up to each of the different varieties. Check a few of them out at least and see which ones go well with other fish!

 

sorry with every system i have setup been about 9 now on cycle i have always had cured live rock and their has always been nitrite present with in 3 days due to the die off of each bacteria species

the dead bacteria show as ammonia which is then turned to nitrite as the ammonia bacteria are the fastest multiplyers then this is the first to decrese followed but nitrite and then followed by nitrate[/quote]

Lol... You made my point... The nitrite came as a result of the die off and was NOT present at the beginning, but 3 days later. The ammonia CAN come from dead bacteria, but your statement: "...the dead bacteria show as ammonia..." is not correct. I think you are a little confused about the workings of the Nytrogen cycle. the principles in your statement are correct, but your phrasing of some things are off. I will post a link that hopefully will help on clarifying this.[/quote]


yes this i understand and just put it in laymans terms the point is the tank has been cycling for 1.5 weeks the sand was live sand which has just been confirmed which means their would have been a spike to begin with and would have been dealt with buy the sand to some extent which is why their should have been a reading of nitrite at some point and no4 which unless you are running a nitrate reactor then the tank cant convert this befor it is established

 

If you add "live sand" and "cured" Live rock.. though they may have been a slight spike in nh3, it might it have been so insignificant as to not be measurable/traceable. A nitrate reactor deals with NO3 (nitrates). I do not understand your point regarding the usage of one and: "...cant convert this befor it is established..."

I also do not think you understand the fact that there's always nh3,no2,no3 in our systems, just when the cycle is established, the concentrations of nh3Nh4 and n02 are in most of the cases UNTRACEABLE by our cheap reagent test kits.

There might have NOT been enough of a spike to be registered.

regards

 

well... theres always the quick way. Patience.... is a quality you are going to need to develop in this hobby. Without it your success rate diminishes greatly.

 

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I never tried that and only kept fish when I had a tank.
Switching the bulbs as long as they are the same wattage & type will be fine of course, but I'm not sure if you'll have any negative effects making 1/2 the tank daylight and the back half actinic at the same time.
I've always done actinic/daylight/actinic/daylight (ended with daylight in the back because that's usually the part of the tank that's hardest to get the light to ime.
I'll copy and paste this into the forum and maybe someone has already tried their lighting arrangement this way?

 

Beautiful! You should totally combine these two lights!
(Sorry that I have nothing smarter to say in this case)

 

[*]umm..the clownfish (dependant on type) will work. I recommend Ocellaris (false percula) since they get to about 2" which is a great size for your tank...but be forewarned that they can get a bit territorial.
[*]the bicolor angel gets to be 5 or 6" and will need swim room, relatively placid...eats animal protein and plant matter, but I think he needs more swim space than what you have to offer.
[*]the bangkok cardinal (which I think you meant to say Bangaii Cardinal) will be okay (size 3 & 1/4") and relatively placid.
[*]the pajama cardinal get's to be about 3 & 1/4" and is relatively placid. 12" of tank length for each is recommended to reduce risk of territorial disputes amongst them.
-->I wouldn't do the cardinals, they're recommened for at least 30g minimum size tank.

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Now, if your anything like me you'll be aggrovated by now since you're now realizing what you really want won't work well so I'll make some recommendations on what I'd do with a tank that size, but again..these are just recommendations.

[*]a pair of amphiprion ocellaris(about 2" with being occassional territorial) I kept a pair of these..they stayed towards the upper level for the most part.
[*]Either one of the green clown goby, yellow clown goby, yellow watchman goby, or firefish (as long as you have hiding places like within the rockwork and a lid to prevent them from spooking and jumping out of the tank). I had purple firefish, very pretty!
[*]and finish the tank off with either a longnose hawkfish, a trio of Blue Damsels, a pair of orange-striped cardinal fish
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The freshwater version is pretty good (with the exlclusion of the discus in a community setting)...
the saltwater version is still pretty new and alot of species aren't on there yet.
<a class="postlink" href="http://aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisorMarine.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisorMarine.php</a>

Ps. check out saltwaterfish.com (they have really good prices, or at least they did when I had my salty and ordered from them...way cheaper than the lfs even with the shipping included)

 

That's a very full tank indeed, goldfish should be stocked so that you give one fish 20 gallon as a minimum, ABSOLUTE MINIMUM, and add another 10 for each additional fish.
So I guess these goldies won't grow to their full potential being kept in a small, crowded place like this. But as long as the water quality is good with sufficient filtration and aeration, I can't point any fingers
May I ask, which kind of goldfish are these?

Well, I guess you could d: BUT it's incredibly risky to have a crowded marine tank, since most marine species are incredibly sensitive to changes in the water chemistry. They're used to living in the sea where the water rarely or never changes, so the smallest difference in the parameters, and they get sick, or die from shock.