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Discussion in 'Livebearer Fish' started by WarthogWilly, Jul 26, 2009.

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    WarthogWilly Thread Starter New Member

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    What size tank should i start with to breed endlers??? Is 10 to small???
    Or would 20 be better? Also do you set these tanks up like normal, with small ston bottoms.....I wasnt sure if the babies woul get stuck or hurt themselves in the crevices.......
     
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    Bigger is ALWAYS better!
    A)Provides you with more room
    B)More room = easier to maintain stability

    Are you going planted or not? IF your going planted I'd say Eco-Complete for substrate since it won't affect your waters chemistry.

    IF your not going planted I'd go with something tightly packed such as pool filter sand. If you want something dark substrate wise you could do Seachem Onyx Sand which claims to be good for plants also consequently.

    I've also done CaribSea Tahitian Moon Sand which always looks nice :)
     
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    How many are you starting out with ?
     
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    WarthogWilly Thread Starter New Member

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    what would you recommend starting out with, i think my wife would get more interested in fish if we can get some to have babies, and i hear these can breed like rabbits, so id like to find like a 20 gal on cl, with all the goodies, so how many would a newbie start out with??? like 2 females and 4 males??
     
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    if your looking for fast breeding (endlers, guppies, mollies, swordtails, male&Female Bristlenose plecos haha!)
    Basically any livebearer will do the trick..just remember High Female to male ratio to prevent aggression/deaths (ie. 4-5 females to each male)
     
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    Well if you want pure Endler's I wouldn't purchase them from a random person on CraigsList.

    If you want 20 you need to start out with a 20 gallon tank. A 10 will be too crowded in several weeks after the females have fry. If you're set on a 10 gallon I would do 5 females and a male. It will still become crowded rather quickly but it will give you a couple months before you need to purchase a larger tank.
     
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    ^^^buy them from anthony!
     
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    WarthogWilly Thread Starter New Member

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    mollies are live bearers????????or did i misunderstand that, also is the gravel ok or is sand a better option?
     
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    Yes mollies are livebearers too. Gravel is perfectly fine.
     
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    sand is better ime>>packs tighter preventing food/waste from getting through (if that makes sense)..keeps everything right on top making it easier for inhabitants to keep it clean and much easier when it comes to siphoning.

    Gravel works too, but harder to siphon when theres babies involved (won't be able to see them and a chance you could suck them up) unless placing a net or white bottomed bucket at the end of the siphon so you can catch/easily spot the fry.
     
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    WarthogWilly Thread Starter New Member

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    never thought of that, ive had some suction problems with adult mollies in the past........dad went for a waterslide ride right into the filter.......poor guy
     
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    <--that is why I use pre-filter sponges
     
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